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Federal Judge says Maryland AR/AK Ban is not unconstitutional.. What say you?


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#1 Will Chambers

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Posted 02 September 2014 - 10:04 AM

Just saw this post over at Buckeye Firearms Association. Looks like this Federal Judge has a personal agenda, and is using her position to push it. 

 

 

"A Federal Judge in Maryland has declared that the state’s ban on AR and AK-pattern rifles and ammunition magazines capable of holding over 10 rounds is not unconstitutional because, she says, these rifles, among the most popular guns in the country, are not “commonly possessed for lawful purposes,” are especially dangerous, and that banning them does not present a significant burden to people wishing to use firearms for self-defense in their homes.

 

The judgment is in response to a lawsuit filed by a group of gun owners and members of the firearms industry. The plaintiffs presented three key grounds for Maryland’s new ban to be overturned:

● That it violated Second Amendment rights.

● That its exemptions for retired law enforcement officers violated the 14th Amendment’s Equal Protection clause.

● That the law is unconstitutionally vague because along with banning a list of specific guns, it also includes a ban on “copies” of the guns listed, but does not define what constitutes a “copy.”

 

Judge Catherine C. Blake, a Clinton appointee, engaged in an astounding level of circuitous reasoning and selective rationale to reach her conclusion that the gun ban is not unconstitutional. It is pretty clear that Judge Blake went into this case with a personal belief that guns are bad and dangerous, and that it was her job to find ways to protect Maryland’s draconian new law, which was passed in the wake of Newtown, Connecticut atrocity. Judge Blake accepted distorted statistics presented by the anti-rights advocates and their paid, results-driven “researchers” as absolute gospel, while dismissing evidence presented by the plaintiffs and their experts.

 

Judge Blake had some help reaching her distorted conclusion though. She relied heavily on a twisted construct previously employed by the Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals in the case of Wollard v. Gallagher. In that case, the original judge rightly concluded that Maryland’s practice of requiring that a person applying for a license to carry a firearm for self-defense outside the home demonstrate a specific need to do so – and rejecting almost all of those applications – was a violation of the clear intent of the Second Amendment. That decision was overturned by the Fourth Circuit in a controversial decision that turned inside-out the Supreme Court’s decision in Heller.

 

The Heller case was specifically about a man who wanted to be able to possess a functional handgun in his home for self-defense in the District of Columbia. The Court kept their ruling in that case very narrow, but made some comments about the nature and meaning of the Second Amendment in their opinion. Among those comments was a statement that the heart of the Second Amendment is the protection of a person’s right to defend “hearth and home.” They pointed out that handguns are by far the most popular choice of weapon for that purpose, and that Second Amendment protections would not extend to weapons that are not “typically possessed by law-abiding citizens for lawful purposes.”

 

The Fourth Circuit conflated the “hearth and home” comment, along with the references to self-defense and “lawful purposes,” to conclude that the only real protection of the Second Amendment involved the keeping of the most commonly owned firearms for the purpose of self-defense against common criminals in one’s home. Judge Blake used that reasoning to conclude that, since “assault rifles” and “large capacity magazines” are not frequently owned or used for that specific purpose, they are not protected under the Second Amendment.

 

Based solely on my reading of the judge’s summary of the arguments and her conclusion, I have to wonder what sort of case the attorneys for the plaintiffs actually put forward. It appears that they relied almost exclusively on the Heller and McDonald cases in their Second Amendment arguments, completely ignoring the swarm of other Supreme Court precedents that preceded Heller. Conspicuously absent in the plaintiffs’ arguments was any reference to US v. Miller, which clearly suggested that the types of weapons most protected by the Second Amendment are those most relevant to the maintenance of a militia. In Heller, the issue was self-defense in the home, and the Court ruled based on that issue. In Miller, the issue was whether possession of a particular type of weapon, in that case, a short-barreled shotgun, was protected under the Second Amendment. The Court concluded that they were unaware of short-barreled shotguns being employed in military service, so they concluded that possession of such a weapon was not protected.

 

Somehow with the advent of Heller and its conclusion that the right to keep and bear arms applies to individuals, independent of the individual’s active participation in a recognized militia unit, the militia aspects of the Second Amendment no longer apply. That is absolutely wrong. The objective of the Second Amendment was to ensure that the ultimate power always reside in the people. The ability to repel a criminal intruder or stop a carjacker or mugger is only a side benefit of the right that guarantees that the People have the ability to put the Constitution back in power if politicians and bureaucrats ever usurp the other mechanisms for righting the ship of state.

 

American hunters and shooters once shipped their guns to their disarmed cousins in England as a last resort against an expected Nazi invasion. Why would we put ourselves in a position of helplessness when there is no one out there to re-arm us in a time of critical need? Lawyers arguing for the Second Amendment in court need to go back to the basics of the Second Amendment every time. - See more at: http://www.buckeyefi...h.obcfW0YB.dpuf

 

 

Source (Buckeye Firearms Association)

 

 

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#2 Michael

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Posted 02 September 2014 - 03:05 PM

Of course it's unconstitutional.



#3 Michael

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Posted 02 September 2014 - 03:11 PM

Americans lost their understanding of the U.S. Constitution roughly 100 years ago.

 

The Constitution of the United States does not grant rights.  Rather, it's *the* document that sets the conditions upon which we the people grant our consent to be governed.  It spells out to the Government what it cannot do...it in no way grants anything. This document PROTECTS the rights that pre existed the Constitution.

 

Because the American psyche has forgotten this simple fact, we allow judges to legislate from the bench via edict and opinions...which are political in nature.  Time again we do nothing.  We sit on our collective asses and keep electing the same idiots who pilfer our pockets time and again.  Oh sure, we complain about it, then promptly go back to watching Honey Boo Boo and the Kardashians and do NOTHING about it at all.  I don't blame the politicians, I blame THE PEOPLE.


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#4 Weber

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Posted 02 September 2014 - 04:47 PM

Unconstitutional, and just stupid.

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Posted 02 September 2014 - 07:58 PM

Unconstitutional, and I have nothing else to add that wouldn't violate the code of conduct.


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Posted 22 October 2014 - 05:08 PM

I just found this forum so here goes. Being a retired Marine, I take incroachments on the rights fought sweat and bled for very seriously. The very fact that this "judge" (and use that term loosely) had the nerve to say that AR and AK platform rifles are  no commonly used says a mouthfull.  Hell on the outdoor channel there used to be a entire TV Show dedicated to hunting with AR plaform rifles. As stated in another post. we the people are completly at fault. We get mad at what they do yet we continue to allow them to occupy the position that allows them to continualy trample on the rights that so many of us have sweat bled and at times died for


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